tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6268877237940592285.post1070254555320786217..comments2023-10-01T18:34:10.884-05:00Comments on Waltzing Matilda: Call me Switzerland!Charlotte (WaltzingM)http://www.blogger.com/profile/12690056082240865041noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6268877237940592285.post-16126548339440117462008-08-13T09:21:00.000-05:002008-08-13T09:21:00.000-05:00Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!PattyThank you, thank you, THANK YOU!<BR/><BR/>PattyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6268877237940592285.post-87154939450665337822008-08-11T17:54:00.000-05:002008-08-11T17:54:00.000-05:00Oh, how sane. So nice to abide awhile in the land...Oh, how sane. So nice to abide awhile in the land of common sense.<BR/> <BR/>I have such sorrow during this whole debate that women might be, by example, teaching their daughters to accept less than what their true dignity requires in the eyes of God: a husband that is a true and compassionate friend, a man that has learned to love unselfishly and be the master of his bodily desires... someone who will see her true self, and for whom it would be HEARTBREAK to stress her out over sex.Barbarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13744414450709873913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6268877237940592285.post-9727248377488519802008-08-11T06:48:00.000-05:002008-08-11T06:48:00.000-05:00Michelle,The original discussion was addressing a ...Michelle,<BR/><BR/>The original discussion was addressing a question someone posed in the Coffee Chat comments asking what the Church teaches regarding "where does personal responsibility come in" specifically regarding actively seeking to have another child when the family is already receiving government assistance on a regular basis in order to support the children they already have.<BR/><BR/>For some women, the reasons for avoiding pregnancy temporarily or permanently are serious enough (I refuse to use the word grave because there is too much information indicating that it is a badly translated misunderstanding of the original and those who believe that the reason must put you in the grave cling to it like socks to a blanket fresh out of the dryer in December) that they and their husbands have had to accept long periods of abstinence and there is nothing wrong with that choice as regards the teachings of the Church. Praise be to God that you have never had a situation that serious! <BR/><BR/>There are also people for whom NFP is very easy. Just because their bodies happen to fit better with whichever method they have chosen (since there are so many now to choose from), doesn't mean that they are being less "open to life" than someone who has been surprised by pregnancy either using a method or not. But these couples are usually the ones accused of using NFP "contraceptively".Charlotte (WaltzingM)https://www.blogger.com/profile/12690056082240865041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6268877237940592285.post-39905816453679706182008-08-11T04:09:00.000-05:002008-08-11T04:09:00.000-05:00I'm just shocked at the lack of charity. I think ...I'm just shocked at the lack of charity. I think I won't read comments at Inside Catholic, and I may stay away from Coffee Chat as well.<BR/><BR/>What bothered me most was the flippant attitude that NFP was so effective and anyone who was poor was irresponsible for getting pregnant again. I don't know who these people are who find NFP just so easy to use, but I for one would be sentenced to extremely long periods of celebacy if I followed the rules. The stress on our marriage is worse than the stress of another baby.Michellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14591234069872271083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6268877237940592285.post-38223828971065328432008-08-10T21:35:00.000-05:002008-08-10T21:35:00.000-05:00Yuppers to all of it.Yuppers to all of it.Laura The Crazy Mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08904542599983127845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6268877237940592285.post-3493249951931859452008-08-10T20:19:00.000-05:002008-08-10T20:19:00.000-05:00Beautiful post, Matilda. ITA. Thank you for writin...Beautiful post, Matilda. ITA. Thank you for writing it.Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13750119018720696852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6268877237940592285.post-9515872912197911942008-08-10T18:13:00.000-05:002008-08-10T18:13:00.000-05:00Nicely said. This comes down to some very intimat...Nicely said. This comes down to some very intimate decisions which I think should remain between the couple and God. That's why I think it's particularly difficult to discuss. There are also a lot of people who sort of see of as a rather ridiculous discussion, not being as blessed regarding fertility (ahem, yours truly). I'm not criticizing people for talking about it - it just seems like people scrutinizing whether it is better to have their riches in fives or hundreds. I trust God's will in this area, NFP or otherwise - <BR/>Rambling aside, Matilda, your post was very well written.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com